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		<title>By: Dan Stocker</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Stocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jazzmann91:
Web versioning is not arbitrary. These versions are abstraction layers where one version constitutes the infrastructure for the next. First there was the World Wide Web (1.0), a system for accessing hypertext documents. Then we built a bidirectional system on top of it, for collaboration and networking (2.0). Now we witness how a new layer is formulating where interoperability and personalization are among the key factors (3.0). There will be a next layer that probably uses all this as knowledge-base for a global (semi-)artificial intelligence. And while the technologies that led to each layer advance, the structure remains, and so does the versioning.

gregorylent:
You didn&#039;t get the point. It&#039;s not about individuals getting wiser by using Twitter. By using it - consciously or not - they contribute to something much bigger, and that&#039;s where you&#039;ll find the collective wisdom that is mentioned here.

Vanessa:
&quot;... it’s gotten to the point where we don’t even know how to harness the power of what we’ve created.&quot;
I&#039;d turn this around and say we don&#039;t know yet how to create something with the technology at hand that we could harness. I think that is why it&#039;s important to have a deeper understanding of the concepts that we think are emerging. So we can design with that in mind. The work of futurists, such as yours, carries great value because of this. I&#039;m myself trying to get a grip on global consciousness, making it measurable, designable. Read my posts on the subject and let me know what you think!

cheers

Dan
@DanielStocker
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jazzmann91:<br />
Web versioning is not arbitrary. These versions are abstraction layers where one version constitutes the infrastructure for the next. First there was the World Wide Web (1.0), a system for accessing hypertext documents. Then we built a bidirectional system on top of it, for collaboration and networking (2.0). Now we witness how a new layer is formulating where interoperability and personalization are among the key factors (3.0). There will be a next layer that probably uses all this as knowledge-base for a global (semi-)artificial intelligence. And while the technologies that led to each layer advance, the structure remains, and so does the versioning.</p>
<p>gregorylent:<br />
You didn&#8217;t get the point. It&#8217;s not about individuals getting wiser by using Twitter. By using it &#8211; consciously or not &#8211; they contribute to something much bigger, and that&#8217;s where you&#8217;ll find the collective wisdom that is mentioned here.</p>
<p>Vanessa:<br />
&#8220;&#8230; it’s gotten to the point where we don’t even know how to harness the power of what we’ve created.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d turn this around and say we don&#8217;t know yet how to create something with the technology at hand that we could harness. I think that is why it&#8217;s important to have a deeper understanding of the concepts that we think are emerging. So we can design with that in mind. The work of futurists, such as yours, carries great value because of this. I&#8217;m myself trying to get a grip on global consciousness, making it measurable, designable. Read my posts on the subject and let me know what you think!</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Dan<br />
@DanielStocker<br />
<a href="http://collectiveweb.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://collectiveweb.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: URL Shortener: Die Hüter des real-time Genoms &#171; MexxBuzz&#39;s Notes</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>URL Shortener: Die Hüter des real-time Genoms &#171; MexxBuzz&#39;s Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Leute sind der Meinung, dass sich mit Twitter ein Web 3.0 &#8211; ein intelligentes und lernendes System &#8211; bauen lässt. Voraussetzung ist ein über [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa Jakobsen</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Jakobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Venessa,

I&#039;ve only been reading your blog for a few weeks now, so I haven&#039;t read everything you&#039;ve posted. Your writing is 1) well-written, 2) interesting, and 3) novel.  The first few times I visited your blog, I was reminded of Benjamin Bloom&#039;s taxonomy of learning.  You&#039;re able to take information, evaluate and analyze it, and apply it to our current situasjon. (Sorry, I used to be a teacher, and am still a big fan of Bloom). 

I have a lot of thoughts about the Collective Intelligence....One of them is this:  Which language does the &quot;Collective intelligence&quot; speak? I&#039;m a former New Yorker living in Europe, so the language barrier is something I think about often.  Can we bring together the collective intelligence of the entire world when a good part of our world can&#039;t communicate in English?  What are your thoughts on this?

Also, you mentioned that maybe the Collective Intelligence could help solve some of the world&#039;s problems (which is super).  Have you thought about how this could happen? Do you think that politicians and world leaders need to get access to this &quot;feed&quot;, or are you thinking that the collective intelligence can change things by other methods? (Sorry, this last question wasn&#039;t formulated too great, I&#039;ve been living in a non-English-speaking country way too long!).

Hope that you keep feeding us with your incredibly reflective thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Venessa,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been reading your blog for a few weeks now, so I haven&#8217;t read everything you&#8217;ve posted. Your writing is 1) well-written, 2) interesting, and 3) novel.  The first few times I visited your blog, I was reminded of Benjamin Bloom&#8217;s taxonomy of learning.  You&#8217;re able to take information, evaluate and analyze it, and apply it to our current situasjon. (Sorry, I used to be a teacher, and am still a big fan of Bloom). </p>
<p>I have a lot of thoughts about the Collective Intelligence&#8230;.One of them is this:  Which language does the &#8220;Collective intelligence&#8221; speak? I&#8217;m a former New Yorker living in Europe, so the language barrier is something I think about often.  Can we bring together the collective intelligence of the entire world when a good part of our world can&#8217;t communicate in English?  What are your thoughts on this?</p>
<p>Also, you mentioned that maybe the Collective Intelligence could help solve some of the world&#8217;s problems (which is super).  Have you thought about how this could happen? Do you think that politicians and world leaders need to get access to this &#8220;feed&#8221;, or are you thinking that the collective intelligence can change things by other methods? (Sorry, this last question wasn&#8217;t formulated too great, I&#8217;ve been living in a non-English-speaking country way too long!).</p>
<p>Hope that you keep feeding us with your incredibly reflective thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Guardigli</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Guardigli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Venessa

Personally,  being very involved with my job, I feel worry not to have enough time to investigate and follow and learn and enjoy what I like.

Oh, yes, I would like to devote time to Artificial Intelligence, Life evolution, Science, and future studies, as well as philosophy and psychology... 

And it is really difficult to choose, because every choice you make determines forever your future.

Maybe we will develop faster clocks, or larger sensing bandwidths, but the fundamental problem will remain. Selective attention is needed for whatever useful and successful result.
We need to focus our lens, to really heat our target.

It is nice to work social, and to romatically think that future will be crowd-sourced, but I am sufficiently old to know that really hard work is needed to build something. And undirected people do not work.

To put it hard way: A bunch of bored people tweeting about the last juicy website they found is not going to actively build something. Scientists and entrepeneurs are needed for this. People who actually likes to invent and make and get their hands and minds dirty with details.

Self contemplation is risky, as well as pure philosophy. We need to find the right balance between the introverse attitude, like Leonardo Da Vinci, a great mind working alone - centuries in advance of his times, and a perfect orchestra of performers holistically directed.

Directors are needed. 
In most cases, sadly, crowds are sums of zeroes.
Directors needs to be protected and heavily filtered, to be proficient.


my 2c.


Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Venessa</p>
<p>Personally,  being very involved with my job, I feel worry not to have enough time to investigate and follow and learn and enjoy what I like.</p>
<p>Oh, yes, I would like to devote time to Artificial Intelligence, Life evolution, Science, and future studies, as well as philosophy and psychology&#8230; </p>
<p>And it is really difficult to choose, because every choice you make determines forever your future.</p>
<p>Maybe we will develop faster clocks, or larger sensing bandwidths, but the fundamental problem will remain. Selective attention is needed for whatever useful and successful result.<br />
We need to focus our lens, to really heat our target.</p>
<p>It is nice to work social, and to romatically think that future will be crowd-sourced, but I am sufficiently old to know that really hard work is needed to build something. And undirected people do not work.</p>
<p>To put it hard way: A bunch of bored people tweeting about the last juicy website they found is not going to actively build something. Scientists and entrepeneurs are needed for this. People who actually likes to invent and make and get their hands and minds dirty with details.</p>
<p>Self contemplation is risky, as well as pure philosophy. We need to find the right balance between the introverse attitude, like Leonardo Da Vinci, a great mind working alone &#8211; centuries in advance of his times, and a perfect orchestra of performers holistically directed.</p>
<p>Directors are needed.<br />
In most cases, sadly, crowds are sums of zeroes.<br />
Directors needs to be protected and heavily filtered, to be proficient.</p>
<p>my 2c.</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: The Next Evolution of the Web &#8211; On Immediacy &#38; Authority &#171; emergent by design</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>The Next Evolution of the Web &#8211; On Immediacy &#38; Authority &#171; emergent by design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] intelligence, a type of &#8216;global brain&#8217;, which I outlined a little further in &#8216;Twitter&#8217;s Intelligent, Welcome to Web 3.0&#8216;. I think that&#8217;s the big picture idea that Jarvis didn&#8217;t directly mention, though [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] intelligence, a type of &#8216;global brain&#8217;, which I outlined a little further in &#8216;Twitter&#8217;s Intelligent, Welcome to Web 3.0&#8216;. I think that&#8217;s the big picture idea that Jarvis didn&#8217;t directly mention, though [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Venessa Miemis</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Venessa Miemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marco,

I read your post, and I agree that those features would greatly help with search and filtering content. 

The only thing that I keep going back and forth about with filtering is, will too much of it make us miss something?

For instance, I still can&#039;t figure out who to follow back. Some people have content that interests me, but is not related to understanding emerging media and technology trends, which is my focus. So I don&#039;t follow them because I don&#039;t want to be distracted, but at the same time, sometimes you get valuable insights from areas outside of your field of interest.

If I surround myself with information that&#039;s self-reinforcing, will I be a victim to groupthink? I don&#039;t want to lose my focus, but I also don&#039;t want to miss the opportunity for a-ha moments.

what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marco,</p>
<p>I read your post, and I agree that those features would greatly help with search and filtering content. </p>
<p>The only thing that I keep going back and forth about with filtering is, will too much of it make us miss something?</p>
<p>For instance, I still can&#8217;t figure out who to follow back. Some people have content that interests me, but is not related to understanding emerging media and technology trends, which is my focus. So I don&#8217;t follow them because I don&#8217;t want to be distracted, but at the same time, sometimes you get valuable insights from areas outside of your field of interest.</p>
<p>If I surround myself with information that&#8217;s self-reinforcing, will I be a victim to groupthink? I don&#8217;t want to lose my focus, but I also don&#8217;t want to miss the opportunity for a-ha moments.</p>
<p>what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Guardigli</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Guardigli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As expressed in previous comments of mine, 
http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-79
and
http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-131
Twitter is developing interesting features, like a brain.
Here http://bit.ly/twittermemory are some thoughts of mine that could be suggestions for improving persistance of valuable informations, and also for creating a forgetting feature.

As in biological systems, selective forget is a fundamental necessity in developing selective attention, which in turn is one of the fundamental necessities of consciousness.

marco (@mgua on twitter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As expressed in previous comments of mine,<br />
<a href="http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-79" rel="nofollow">http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-79</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-131" rel="nofollow">http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/17/is-twitter-a-complex-adaptive-system/#comment-131</a><br />
Twitter is developing interesting features, like a brain.<br />
Here <a href="http://bit.ly/twittermemory" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/twittermemory</a> are some thoughts of mine that could be suggestions for improving persistance of valuable informations, and also for creating a forgetting feature.</p>
<p>As in biological systems, selective forget is a fundamental necessity in developing selective attention, which in turn is one of the fundamental necessities of consciousness.</p>
<p>marco (@mgua on twitter)</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter Pressure= Better presenters/teachers? &#171; jhengstler&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Pressure= Better presenters/teachers? &#171; jhengstler&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog, emergent by design re. Web 3.0 as a move to a collective social media consciousness. (See here) While collective productive consciousness is one of the bright sides of social media, the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Venessa Miemis</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Venessa Miemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, I think the #edchats are such a great idea - weekly tweetstorms to keep each other informed of new techniques and best practices for integrating social technologies into the classroom. I think that kind of stuff is really going to help get teachers on board who are intimidated because they may feel they have no support and don&#039;t know where to turn.

How much easier will it be when they realize they have a global network of educators and enthusiasts eager to offer help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I think the #edchats are such a great idea &#8211; weekly tweetstorms to keep each other informed of new techniques and best practices for integrating social technologies into the classroom. I think that kind of stuff is really going to help get teachers on board who are intimidated because they may feel they have no support and don&#8217;t know where to turn.</p>
<p>How much easier will it be when they realize they have a global network of educators and enthusiasts eager to offer help?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://emergentbydesign.com/2009/11/26/twitters-intelligent-welcome-to-web-3-0/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are definitely moving toward web 3.0. A great is example is the #edchat on Tuesdays organized by @shellterrell. It&#039;s clearly moving toward a collective intelligence sharing on the specified topic of that #edchat. Of course, discussions continue beyond the event with new &quot;synapses&quot; made between people w/similar interests who were not previously connected in the same network until that event. Since social media presumes a contribution of participants that means we are each greater, moving further along, by the contribution of each. When this power is turned toward solving issues, problems, brainstorming, it is tremendous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are definitely moving toward web 3.0. A great is example is the #edchat on Tuesdays organized by @shellterrell. It&#8217;s clearly moving toward a collective intelligence sharing on the specified topic of that #edchat. Of course, discussions continue beyond the event with new &#8220;synapses&#8221; made between people w/similar interests who were not previously connected in the same network until that event. Since social media presumes a contribution of participants that means we are each greater, moving further along, by the contribution of each. When this power is turned toward solving issues, problems, brainstorming, it is tremendous.</p>
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