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In preparation for the Contact conference that I am helping to organize this October in NYC, I’ve been in discussion with many different communities about the types of initiatives they would like to bring to the table. The purpose of the event is to ‘realize the true potential of social media,’ and determine what infrastructures need to be in place to enable peer-to-peer commerce, culture, and governance.
My goal is to help facilitate these conversations now, so that come October, there is already a higher level of awareness and understanding of these issues, and more connections between groups working on similar objectives.
To that end, one of the conversation threads that has begun, with the help of Paul B. Hartzog, Richard C. Adler, and Sam Rose of the Future Forward Institute, is:
What are the fundamental requirements and building blocks of a distributed internet?
We’ve already seeded the question out on Quora and a google group, and found that developers will answer this question in many ways, because it raises many questions. Such as:
- Is a ‘distributed internet’ one thing or many things (one internet or many internets?)
- Should the focus be on hardware or software? Perhaps both in parallel, as a linked ecosystem of interoperable parts?
- Could we make more progress by building on the existing internet architecture, or would an entirely new architecture offer a better set of advantages?
- What about hybrid architectures of old and new (mesh networks conntected with community-owned ‘trunks’ for instance)?
Our plan is to get a sense of the various perspectives and opinions around these questions, find the common ground, and see what patterns and insights emerge. It’s not an either/or solution.. it’s probably more like both/and. As nature has shown us, diversity is a good thing. When you have a monoculture, you’re much more susceptible to collapse and catastrophic failure. Resilience is often associated with options.
So if we’re using evolutionary processes as our model, it would make sense to have a multitude of experiments and prototypes out there, with an understanding that “failure” is actually a necessary component of more agile iteration and adaptability.
As these conversations continue and we get a clearer understanding of the current landscape, a roadmap will start to come together with implementable ‘next steps.’ Once the basics are understood, we’ll start asking the harder questions, like:
- What are the political, economic, and technological reasons for a distributed internet(s)?
- Are distributed systems for technologically efficient?
- Do distributed systems afford more freedom?
- What are the core principles of a distributed internet(s)? (technology layers, philosophy, etc)
- Who are the key players in terms of people implementing hardware ann software, participating in co-governance, and exploring legal issues around emerging infrastructures?
- How do economics change when all of the participants are co-owners in the system?
And so on.
I hope this will be an opportunity for many of the communities, groups, and organizations to come together in a common forum and work through these questions together. This area is relatively new to me, so while I am aware of some groups, like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Peer to Peer Foundation, and the Free Software Foundation, I know there are many more that I have yet to discover and engage.
If you have suggestions of people and groups that should be involved in the conversation, please pass it on! Another initiative we are working on is to map out an infographic that lists as many of the stakeholders associated with a distributed internet, as well as the many projects that are currently underway, in order to make sense of it as a larger ecosystem. Also, if you know of places where these conversations are already happening, please give us a heads up so we can direct people to those places as well.
As a start, we’ve posted the first question on Quora –
What are the fundamental requirements and building blocks of a distributed internet?
A google group was also started:
Building a Distributed Decentralized Internet
We’ll be distilling all the responses and posting results here within the next week or two, and then move through the various questions together.
As always, looking forward to learning with you!
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This post co-authored by Paul B. Hartzog, Samuel Rose, Richard Adler, and Venessa Miemis
I have a simple question – let me represent the non-techies out here. Aren’t there already distributed web systems? Like, when groups run their own server underground/ off the grid? If this is the case, then is your question really about how or why scale these existing systems? This is in no way a critique of what you are doing. I just want to understand better. X
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Xanthe,
In part the question is indeed how or why scale those existing systems.
But, this is not the only question. Because, there is far more going on than just off grid servers in this space. We are going to do our best to distill the various questions and landscape from the discussion. But, I think you are right, that this question is definitely one part of the inquiry.
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“Aren’t there already distributed web systems? ”
Distributed web systems, but not distributed infrastructure. You can run an old style BB out of your house, but what happens when the lines are shut down?
A distributed network will not be a product of careful planning because the hardware and software solutions that work for one neighborhood won’t be the right solution for another. People in the desert can use infra red. People in cities can use wifi. People in rural areas might launch their own satellite.
I’m frustrated with the never ending analysis paralysis that seems to have congealed around this topic. What’s needed isn’t more discussion but the posting of people’s trials and errors so that we can build on each others experiences. We need fewer talkers and more doers.
definitely. i’ve been inspired so far by the amount of people who have emailed me about the functional working prototypes and examples they have going within their communities. they do exist, they just don’t have much attention. i’m hoping that we can bring those people together with the enthusiastic groups who need that guidance of how to actually implement these systems on their local levels.
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Wow, Venessa, you are hitting another one out of the stadium.
Web 2.0 connected us. Internet 2.0 makes sure we can connect no matter what. Factor in resilience coming from diversity and we are likely looking at Internet 2.n, just to coin a meme here. Looking very much forward to act it out.
CoCreator –
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head that the answer will indeed be found in the Internet and not the Web.
CLOUD, the Consortium for Local Ownership and Use of Data, has been working on this issue since March 2009 and has a large body of work at http://www.cloudinc.org on how this new thinking will impact not just social networks but health, finance, education and government transparency.
As I said at my TED talk at TEDxAustin on 2.19.11, the Internet has always been about connections between people, and if we rearchitect the Internet, then the vexing issues of privacy, security, identity, data, etc. can be resolved at their root. After a couple of years of advocacy, we will beginning CLOUD’s work on CTML (contextual markup language) in the next several months that will lead to the very Internet discussed here.
Stay tuned. I’ll post a link to my TED talk when it becomes available this week and will also be talking at SXSW interactive on this same topic on March 14.
I applaud Vanessa and her colleagues for bringing much needed interest and enthusiasm to this topic.
Vanessa,
You might find this post I recently wrote interesting: http://al3x.net/2011/02/15/internet-future.html
hey alex,
i read the post. do you have working solutions, or is it more of a theory piece?
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It is troubling that I am being asked to create a facebook account to participate in this conversation. It seems almost antithetical to the purpose. Perhaps we can find a platform which does not require me to sacrifice my privacy and autonomy?
you’re required to have a facebook account for what conversation? what are you talking about? you don’t need a facebook login to post here.
Quora requires us either to have a facebook or a twitter, both of which are highly proprietary and unfree. There is no alternative method to sign up for an account on quora.
I would recommend a wiki of some sort. Perhaps a tiddlywiki. I have a wiki that we could use, or we could start a new one. I am just saying, however we have this conversation, the medium needs to be free (as in freedom.)
OH. i didn’t realize that about quora, but i have been encouraging others to post this same thread and discussion on Stack Overflow. would you like to do that? the conversation happens whereever people step up to the plate, i’m not in control of it or anything. i’m reading through the comments that others are posting and then coming back here and just summarizing the state of things to the best of my understanding.
if you get any questions posted, just give me a heads up and i will crosspost the links here. or if you have other alternative Q&A sites, ploase share the links for those too.
i believe there is a wiki on the P2P Foundation site that is being used
Quora used to allow signup without those connections, but rechecking now I see you are right.
On the other hand, there is currently no such thing as a “Free as in Freedom” medium.
Even if someone starts another wiki, or if we use the P2PFoundation wiki, and even the conversation here at EmergentByDesign is not “Free as in Freedom” because the individual users do not have any *actual* say whatever in whether their work is safe (this post can be arbitrarily deleted by those who *do* have control) and cannot make any direct change to the sites themselves in other ways…
These restrictions are important to a degree – because of the chaos and disruptions that can occur when users post “inappropriate” or even just “off topic” content.
Discovering how to address this border between Autarchy and Autocracy is part of the answer to the question of how to fix the internet … and all our productive systems.
David Reed’s work at MIT with his ‘Viral Communications’ group- some years ago doing research on spread spectrum, lo power digital radio for true P2P mesh networks- might be interesting.
http://www.media.mit.edu/research/groups/viral-communications
Nice going with that!
Even though it is in its first incarnation, you might like the free, open and sometimes distributed web services of http://libreprojects.net – it is similar to the list in the p2pfoundation wiki.
nice roundup, thanks!
Delighted to see this taking off finally! Looking forward to future posts, principles, and road-mapping with you and others.
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